Inside the Twana H.S. and Asia R.A. Trial #17: ISIS Women Worse Than Men?
TRIAL OF TWANA H.S. AND ASIA R.A.
Higher Regional Court – Munich, Germany
Trial Monitoring Summary #17
Hearing Date: October 28 & 29, 2025
CAUTION: Some testimony may include graphic descriptions of torture, rape or other violent acts.
Note that this summary is not a verbatim transcript of the trial; it is merely an unofficial summary of the proceedings.
Throughout this summary, [information located in brackets are notes from our trial monitor] and “information placed in quotes are statements made by the witness, judges or counsel.” The names and identifying information of witnesses have been redacted.
[Note: SJAC provides a summary of the proceedings while redacting certain details to protect witness privacy and to preserve the integrity of the trial.]
SJAC’s 17th trial monitoring report details days 32 and 33 of the trial of Twana H.S. and Asia R.A. in Munich, Germany. On the first trial day, the court heard F35 who is [redacted information] of the plaintiff P1. The witness recalled almost all names of the ISIS men she and her [redacted information] were held captive by and focused in her testimony on P1’s life under the Accused as well as her current circumstances. For the first time, the witness gave a detailed account of the violence P1 had to endure and used the word “rape” repeatedly. The Court showed the most interest in [redacted information], which provided detailed insights into P1’s beliefs about her circumstances, the Accused, and Islam. [Redacted information].
On the second day, the Court heard F36 who is [redacted information] of Plaintiff P1, and [redacted information] was not captured by ISIS. The witness testified about the liberation of his siblings and what he claimed was his idea to [redacted information] for the Court to use as evidence.
Day 32 – October 28, 2025
On this trial day, the Court heard [redacted name], F35, who is [redacted information] of P1 and was flown into Munich from [redacted location] together with her sister [redacted name], W19, who testified the week prior, and her brother [redacted name], F36, who will testify on trial day 33. As with previous Yazidi witnesses, F35 was represented by counsel [redacted name], F40, and her own interpreter, [redacted name], F41, while [redacted name], C3, once again interpreted the testimony from Kurmanji.
The trial day started with the confusion that the Court officially announced the hearing to start at 9:00 AM, while the press had been wrongly informed of a start time of 9:30 AM. Still, the proceedings began as scheduled, with the Presiding Judge’s announcement that the video of the recorded [redacted information] conversation between [redacted name], P1, and [redacted information], which was first announced and then filed with the Court last week [redacted information] [for the details of this filing, see Trial Report #16], was officially translated by the Court and send to the Defense as a transcript prior to the hearing. The Defense Team of Twana H.S. then requested an open court viewing of the recording, which the Presiding Judge immediately approved.
The open court viewing of the video [redacted information] followed, facilitated via two large projector screens on both sides of the courtroom: The video was about five minutes long and showed a smartphone laying on a table, on which two women, one in each video call window, were in a [redacted information] video conversation in brightly lit rooms. The smartphone was filmed by a second camera or phone at an angle, which most likely made the woman on the other line, supposedly P1, unaware of the recording. [Redacted information].
After the viewing, the Defense Team of Twana H.S. requested a break to prepare a statement in accordance with Sect. 257 GCCP and asked to receive the recording as data for their own evaluation. While the Presiding Judge quickly responded that the video will stay in court for in-person viewings only, he announced further discussion after the break.
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[35-minutes-break]
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When the hearing resumed, the Presiding Judge granted both Defense Teams a period until December 1, 2025, to prepare statements in accordance with Sec. 257 GCCP, to give enough time for proper access to the files in question. After a heated discussion between the Defense, the Court, and the Prosecution over the question of whether the recording should be sent as a file to the Defense, the Court decided to stick to its prior decision. It would be too large of a risk for the Plaintiffs and witnesses to allow the video file leave the Court, as with modern hacking technologies, one would never know who could gain access to such sensitive material.
The Presiding Judge then asked the witness F35 to enter the courtroom, informed her of her rights and duties, and asked for her personal details. F35 is [redacted information] years old, currently a student, and does not have any familial relations to either of the Accused. Just like her sister W19, F35 was asked to name all of her siblings and their ages, which she subsequently did (for the details of this filing, see Trial Report #16). The Presiding Judge then prompted F35 to describe to the Court how she was abducted by ISIS for the first time. F35 told the Court that she and her family were stopped by ISIS men on their way to [redacted location], Iraq, on August 3, 2014. She described how the men first brought members of her family to [redacted location], then to [redacted location], and then to [redacted location], all within the first six days. In [redacted location], they stayed for 26 days in a school and were then brought to a village called [redacted location]. After four months, they returned to [redacted location], and after one more month they went to [redacted location]. After three more months, she was brought to a mosque in [redacted location], where F35, her siblings, and other Yazidi children were violently separated from their mothers. There, in a school, her siblings were separated from each other after an order by an ISIS leader that each male ISIS member should chose a Yazidi girl or boy for themselves as a present. The witness then described how most of her siblings went to [redacted name]’s, F82’s house, where they were raffled off to one ISIS family each. F35 was paired with [redacted name], F89, while [redacted information] [redacted name], P1, was taken away by [redacted name], F90. Sister [redacted name], W19, was taken away by [redacted name], F82, sister [redacted name] by [redacted name], F91, and sister [redacted name] by [redacted name], F87. The witness then continued her testimony with a detailed description of how she was sold off to various other ISIS men: F89 sold the witness to [redacted name], F92, then after four months to [redacted name], F93, and one day later to an ISIS member called [redacted name], F94. After one week, F92 bought the witness back and sold her off again one week later to [redacted name], F95, one week later. F95 sold the witness after ten days to [redacted name], F96, who sold her to [redacted name], F97, the same night. Finally, the witness stayed with F97’s family for two years.
F35 described F97 as [redacted information] years old at the time and told the Court that “there was nothing he did not do to me.” Specifically, the witness mentioned how F97 hit her, starved her, and did not give her any water. She then said, “I was young and small when he sexually assaulted me,” since it would be “legitimate among ISIS to sexually assault six- to seven-year-old Yazidis, as our religion is seen as illegitimate.” F35 then went on to explain that her sisters had to endure similar suffering. She last saw [redacted information] P1 and F77 in [redacted location] before the war started. When fighting broke out, F97 told F35 to not go near her family, as he would consequently kill her with an explosive belt, since her family members are nonbelievers. Eventually, the witness was freed from F97’s captivity on [redacted time].
The Court then started to ask specific questions, particularly on F35’s last encounter with P1. The witness testified that she had last seen her [redacted information] in [redacted location] during the summer of [redacted time], together with her [redacted information] sister F77, since F90 and F91 were friends. After the witness was freed, she was in contact with other freed Yazidi girls, among them [redacted name], F29, and [redacted name], F33, who identified P1 through a picture the witness had shown around. According to the witness, F29 and F33 told her family that P1 was last seen in [redacted location] with the family of the Accused, who, according to F29 and F33, treated her very badly, hit her, and did not give her any food. F35 explained that she very much believed F29 and F33, who she testified to have personally spoken to in [redacted time], as she experienced the same things under ISIS men. F29 also told the witness that P1 was sexually abused by ISIS men, had to regularly make coffee for them, and was treated very badly by the wife. To the Court’s question if P1 ever received a different name, F35 responded with “[redacted information],” which she knew about from F29. The witness added that P1 would now be called “[redacted information]” in [redacted location]. F35 then continued to specify that F29 told her that the ISIS member in question was Kurdish, originated from [redacted location] or [redacted location] in [redacted location], and spoke with P1 in Sorani.
The Presiding Judge then turned to [redacted information]. According to the witness, those currently happen [redacted information]. F35 never had a problem identifying [redacted information] P1 [redacted information], as “one never forgets [redacted information] in 100 years.” Additionally, she testified to remember that P1 has a slightly deformed [redacted information]. Everyone in her family so far has [redacted information].
Suddenly, the witness interrupted the question-and-answer style of the Presiding Judge and asked if she could just tell “the full story.” The Court agreed, and F35 went on to explain that an ISIS member called [redacted name], F98, had taken P1 out of the last camp she last stayed at. [Redacted information].
When the Presiding Judge asked F35 about what P1 told her about her time in [redacted location], the witness visibly turned herself to the Accused and told the Court that a German ISIS member bought [redacted information] P1, who also learned a few German words from him. P1 had to stand outside of the house for hours in the winter, had to take care of household tasks, cleaned, did laundry, cooked food, and was six or seven years old when she got “raped” [as interpreted into German] by the man. During all of this, P1 still had to endure other violent punishments by the man and the woman, who “always agreed with each other.” The wife was worse than him, according to F35. She once told P1 that her husband will have sex with her tonight. She never gave P1 any food and burned her body with a metal spoon she purposefully heated up. In this context, the witness F35 then shouted: “ISIS women were always worse than their men!”
The Court wanted to know more about the “rape” F35 mentioned and asked if the witness could give any details, which F35 was not able to. To the question if P1 told F35 she was “raped” several times, F35 responded with “yes,” but proceeded to switch to her own story. Furthermore, F35 explained that P1 also told her about other families she was held captive by in [redacted location], but mostly about the Accused, who “did the most to her.” In addition to those Germans, P1 spoke of [redacted information]-speaking ISIS families she lived under. When the Court asked from when until when P1 told F35 to have lived under said German family, F35 offered to [redacted information]. The Presiding Judge kindly declined.
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[93-minutes-break]
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After the break, the Presiding Judge asked the witness to feel free to consult her smartphone, whenever she needs to confirm information from [redacted information]. The Court then continued the testimony with questions regarding the logistics of [redacted information]. F35 confirmed to have [redacted information] and offered to present them to the Court. For [redacted information] was created by F35 with the intention to create evidence for the Court to use. [redacted information], P1 also confirmed to have lived under German ISIS members, the Court pointed out, and F35 confirmed [redacted information]. The Court then asked F35 to summarize what P1 [redacted information] about the German family, which the witness first refused to do. F35 then explained how P1 had a lot of fear to get killed any time, especially when she was sleeping. The witness pointed out that “this family here” did plenty of bad things to [redacted information], especially the woman. F35 loudly asked herself how anyone could prepare such a young girl for sexual violence, when most people are only ready for marriage when they are “like 29 years old,” and P1 was six. F35 went on blaming Islam for legitimizing such sexual violence and recounted the, according to the witness, common comment among ISIS members when selling of Yazidi girls of “I have ruined her, ruin her properly as well.” F35 ended her monologue with shouting that ISIS would only do all of this “because we are Yazidis.”
The Court continued asking a few clarifying questions from the translated [redacted information] transcript, before the Presiding Judge inquired about how F35 found out that P1 meant the particular family of the Accused [redacted information]. F35 told the Court [redacted information] P1 specifically about a German family, to which P1 [redacted information] that she had lived under them, and that they spoke Kurdish and German with her. According to F35, she even learned German phrases directly from the “German ISIS man,” for example, “I love you” [German: “Ich liebe dich”]. Later, P1 was sold off to another ISIS man by the German, who then left the country. F35 explained that P1 heard from this man that the German went back to the “country of the nonbelievers.” The Presiding Judge then asked F35 how P1 would know of this trial against the Accused, which the witness [redacted information]. According to the witness, P1 [redacted information] the fear that ISIS would get to know about the trial and her name and then look for her and kill her. [redacted information].
Subsequently, the witness counsel of F35 requested a break, which the Presiding Judge approved.
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[30-minutes-break]
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After the break, F35 specified [redacted information] P1 if she was living under Syrian or Iraqi ISIS men, to which she started [redacted information] about the German family. The Court then asked if P1 [redacted information] one or two German families. F35 responded that P1 always [redacted information] about “the German family” in singular terms, which would imply only the one. The witness thought to have heard that there was a second one, but P1 did not [redacted information] such a thing. When the Court tried to find out if P1 was ever able to confirm her prior contact with [redacted name], F29, F35 told the Court [redacted information] for protection reasons.
The Court then asked if it is the witness’s assumption that [redacted information], F98, is an ISIS member. F35 cryptically answered that while the patterns are similar, they claim they are not ISIS members, as they know that ISIS “is for nonbelievers,” which, however, is not correct. The witness then added to her testimony that P1 [redacted information] strong wish to herself testify in court, if it would ever become possible.
The Court showed no interest in this and moved on to request further information on the photograph of P1 which F35 had shown to F29 in Kurdistan in 2022. The witness immediately pulled up the photograph on her smartphone and showed it to the Court, which decided to submit it for an immediate viewing in open court via a projector. The photograph matched the first viewed photograph from trial day 30 of last week and once again showed P1 at the 2013 wedding of her uncle. The witness then announced her intent to present another photograph of P1 to the Court, which happened to be the second photograph from last week, showing P1 in [redacted location]. The Defense of Twana H.S. then interrupted with the question of where the witness had the second photograph from, to which she answered a cousin of her father, who received it from people in the camp who took pictures of lost Yazidi girls. F35 also added that she [redacted information], who confirmed that it was her.
Changing the topic, the Court now showed interest in P1’s age when she was abducted. F35 responded that [redacted information] was “not four years old yet.” According to the witness, P1 was abducted during the [redacted information] month of the year, while her birthday is in the [redacted information] month. This testimony was followed by a repetitive description of how much injustice was done to [redacted information], who was the youngest of all. She was hurt so badly that, according to F35, she even needs medications for her “destroyed psyche” as well as for her burn marks and dental pain, since she was tortured and hit into her face so badly. The witness concluded that P1 probably still lives under such violence today. The Court turned to P1’s first ISIS man she was bought by, F90, and asked the witness how her life under him was. F35 was able to recall that she visited P1 together with her sisters W19, F77, and F78 twice at F90’s house. According to the witness’s own observations, F90’s wife was very bad as well and poured hot water over P1, who regularly had to take care of the household and the family’s children. F90 had several children and two wives. Although F35 had stated in the UNITAD hearing that P1 was treated like the family’s own child in that household, as the Court pointed out, the witness still affirmed that F90 and his wife were awful to [redacted information].
The Court’s questioning ended with the open question of how P1 [redacted information]. F35 responded that she believes that [redacted information]. According to the witness, [redacted information] is not brave enough to say that she is Yazidi and currently fully believes to be Muslim. Even if P1 would come back to her family, she would probably stay Muslim, as ISIS brainwashed her so much. She had even said, as F35 explained, that she wants to see the flag of Islam flying over all Western countries, regularly hinted towards the seven virgins in heaven, urged F35 to convert to the “real belief,” and labeled [redacted information] as a Kāfir [“unbeliver” or “denier”] [redacted information]. F35 concluded her response by telling the Court that [redacted information] even if she could, she would never want to return to the nonbelievers. After this, the Court announced a break.
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[22-minutes-break]
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The hearing resumed with the questioning by the Defense Teams. The Defense of Twana H.S. started by asking how exactly F35 became free. In a detailed manner, F35 testified how ISIS was fought by the Iraqi government, which in her case, all culminated in the night between [redacted time], when F35’s ISIS neighborhood was bombed by airstrikes, and the witness spent the whole night seeking shelter with two other Yazidi girls until Iraqi troops found her. They then took care of the girls and photographed their faces for specific Facebook groups, which led to an uncle of F35 recognizing her. F35 was then brought to a camp in [redacted location], where she was able to reunite with her family. The witness also mentioned that she had a USB stick with pictures of ISIS members hidden in her sock, which she however threw away in the fear that the Iraqi government could kill her for such information.
Twana H.S.’s Defense Counsel then wanted to know more about how P1 came from [redacted location] to F98. F35 knew that [redacted information] immediately asked for her hand in marriage, “as one does in Islam.” This was six months before [redacted information] and, according to the witness, a relatively good thing, as P1 would have never gotten the opportunity to [redacted information] if any other ISIS member would have taken her. Many people tried to scam [redacted information] by claiming they had found P1 in the camp during this time and would be able to get into contact with her. F35 recalled that [redacted information] paid [redacted information] USD once for such a scam. In response to questions by the Defense, the witness then explained that she met the Yazidi girl F29 in a hotel in [redacted location] during the [redacted information] for the first time, and plenty of times after that, usually in the context of various IOM [International Organization for Migration]-organized festivities. Her last encounter with F29 was during the [redacted time].
The Defense of Asia R.A. interrupted the questioning, explaining to the Court that the Accused feels lightheaded, needs water, and fresh air. The Court paused proceedings.
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[40-minutes-break]
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When Asia R.A. re-entered the courtroom with a cool pack on her forehead, Twana H.S.’s Defense Counsel’s questioning continued. Specifically, F35 was asked who told her that P1 had been with two German families. The witness responded with the name of a Yazidi friend of her, [redacted name], F100. F35 then answered the question of whether the word “Murtad” [مرتد], which was described as meaning “nonbelievers,” was ever mentioned in the context of P1. She explained that ISIS commonly uses that term for apostates The Accused, Twana H.S., was called that way, according to what P1 [redacted information]. The witness further testified that [redacted information] thinks she would get killed by Yazidis or at least married off to an old man if she would leave her current circumstances and return to her family. While [redacted information] that this is far from true, she admitted to the Court that [redacted information] would probably not be accepted back into her family, as it is an “ISIS child.” Furthermore, F35 gave more details on [redacted information]: According to the witness, sometimes P1 even [redacted information]. She affirmed her strategy to create direct evidence for the Court “so that the Judges don’t think that [she is] lying.” The witness also confirmed that it was her idea to [redacted information]. As such, all of her family members knew about that plan. However, the [redacted information] itself was done without anyone else’s presence, although her [redacted information] once came and tried to join. The Presiding Judge interrupted to tell the witness that her own earlier testimony says that she locked the door, which F35 then qualified with “only before the break.”
The Defense asked if P1 told F35 that she had been “raped” several times, which the witness confirmed. P1 herself wanted to address the topic of “rape” but told the witness not to tell it to her mother. According to F35, P1 had said that she “endured plenty of violence, but the worst was that they took [her] honor and raped” her. To the question of the Defense if P1 ever described the “rape” with any details, F35 responded that [redacted information] was too embarrassed to say anything beyond those terms. Although the witness had testified several times today that P1 was “raped” more than once, she now admitted in response to that question of the Defense that she never actually asked P1. The witness specified that P1 only later told F35 that she had generally been “sold off and raped several times.” The Presiding Judge then asked if F35 recalled having asked P1 about the question of “rape” [redacted information]. F35 described that she asked P1 if she got “consummated” [German: “ob sie getraut wurde”], which she responded with “yes.” According to the witness, this would directly mean that one got “raped.”
The witness then complained about a headache but agreed to further testify. Since Asia R.A. needed to use the restroom, the Court agreed to another break.
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[20-minutes-break]
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After the break, the Defense Team of Asia R.A. took over and asked if the witness can name the two Accused or describe how they looked according to P1. F35 declined to respond to either question and only said that she knows that “this woman here is the ISIS woman,” since F29, who had already been a witness to this trial, had told her. Additionally, F35 explained how P1 told her that the German family in question is the one present today. In a subsequent response, F35 testified to have spoken to F29 after her testimony. F29 told her having “said everything” to the Court, while she did not report to F35 about the questions she had to answer.
Then, the Presiding Judge brought up a quote from [redacted information], in which P1 would have mentioned an ISIS man called [redacted name], F101, who had a wife P1 described as a “Kurdish-German.” F35 did not have an explanation for this and only confirmed that P1 had mentioned him. In response to further questions by the Defense Team of Twana H.S., F35 testified to not having spoken to anyone besides F29 after her summons to Court, that she never spoke to W7 from UNITAD after her hearing again, and that the family members that [redacted information].
Finally, the Court wanted to know the precise date of P1’s birth. While [redacted time] is mentioned in P1’s identity document, the witness was certain that her [redacted information] told her that P1 was born during the [redacted information] month, as “most of Iraq was born on [redacted time].” The Court then asked itself if P1 could actually have been born in [redacted time] and not [redacted time] and instructed the witness to ask her brother to reach out to [redacted information] and get her opinion on this question.
With plenty of words of appreciation by F35 to the Court and both Defense Team’s motions to give statements in accordance with Sect. 257 GCCP until December 1, 2025 granted, the Court adjourned the proceedings at 7:30 PM.
The next trial day will be on October 29, 2025, at 9:00 AM.
Day 33 – October 29, 2025
On the second session of this week, the Court heard [redacted name], F36, who is [redacted information] of P1 and accompanied his sisters W19 and F35, who testified on trial day 30 and trial day 32, from [redacted location] to Germany. His testimony was not originally planned by the Court, but got spontaneously scheduled after [redacted information], was revealed.
F36 is [redacted information] years old, does not currently practice a profession, and is a student in a [redacted information] school. He is not in any familial relationship with the Accused. The Presiding Judge started the testimony with yesterday’s question of whether [redacted information] P1 could have been born in [redacted time] and not in [redacted time]. F36, however, responded that [redacted information] only confirmed the [redacted information] month and not the year of birth to him. His [redacted information] would be in a lot of psychological pain, he added, and currently not able to properly address such topics. The Court then asked what the witness knows about P1’s abduction and captivity under ISIS. F36 repeated a similar story to what W19 and F35 already testified on trial days 30 and 32, but highlighted that he was the only one of [redacted information] that escaped ISIS and was never held captive. He confirmed that his sisters W19 and F35 were freed by Iraqi soldiers on [redacted time], and that his mother and youngest brother F81 were freed much earlier than the rest of his siblings, namely, on [redacted time]. He explained how he worked closely with the authorities and helped to find contact and eventually free his sister F49 on [redacted time], and his sister F79 and brother F80 on [redacted time]. F36 then specified again that he first heard from P1 via the Yazidi girls F29 and F33. Next, the witness went on to explain how he [redacted information]. Here, he repeated the story that F35 had already told the Court the day prior.
The Court then changed the topic to [redacted information]. The witness testified that he knew about F35’s [redacted information], but claimed that it was his idea after he got to hear about [redacted information] P1’s repeated [redacted information] of violence. [Redacted information].
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[21-minutes-break]
[Note: During the break, the trial monitor observed an intense verbal argument that almost got physical between the court interpreter for Kurmanji, C3, and the court interpreter for Arabic for Asia R.A., C2, directly outside of the courtroom. The argument seemed to revolve around the mistranslation, and as such the change of meaning, of an Arabic word, which was, however, not understood by the monitor. Court security had to intervene, and the argument was not brought up by the Court.]
After plenty of detailed questions by the Court, the Presiding Judge realized that F36 could not give any more detailed descriptions of what happened to [redacted information] under ISIS, and shifted his questioning back to the present. Here, F36 specified that he can understand and read Arabic, but cannot speak it, which is why [redacted information]. When the Judge asked about P1’s current circumstances [redacted information], the witness described [redacted information] as not being well. According to his testimony, [redacted information] “or he would kill her,” but [redacted information], which kept [redacted information] quiet for the time being. Since [redacted information] and as such put P1 in danger again. [Redacted information] P1 is too embarrassed [redacted information] about her specific experiences of violence and current wounds. Additionally, F36 testified that he does not even want to hear about the details of “what they did” to [redacted information], as that would make him “very sad and angry.” However, F36 knew that P1 has burn marks [redacted information]. While F36 did not recall if P1 was given any other name in ISIS captivity, he told the Court that [redacted information] calls her “[redacted information].”
The Court then proceeded with the viewing of two photographs that F35 had sent to her counsel, F40, after her hearing yesterday. The first photograph showed two girls on a couch, one with a bandage around her wrist. F36 was able to identify one of the girls as [redacted information] W19 and the other as [redacted information] F35. He explained to have taken the picture on [redacted time], when he was reunited with them again. The second photograph then showed a group of persons sitting on ruins: a group of girls was sitting in front of several men with rifles in their hands. The witness explained that also this picture would show W19 and F35 as well as several other Yazidi girls when they were freed by Iraqi soldiers.
Subsequently, the Defense Team of Twana H.S. asked several questions about details of the liberation process and [redacted information], which the witness mostly responded in a way that mirrored the testimonies of his [redacted information]. F36 highlighted that the very first [redacted information] between F35 and P1 was on [redacted time], and, after the Defense asked why he remembers so many precise dates, that he does not forget the best and worst days in his [redacted information] life. And while August 3 (the day of the ISIS abduction) is the worst day of each year for him, [redacted time] (the day of [redacted information]) is certainly one of the best ones.
With that, the Court dismissed F36 as a witness and announced a lunch break.
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[60-minutes-break]
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After the break, the Presiding Judge announced the decision to not read the UNITAD hearing protocol of the Yazidi woman [redacted name], F30, who the Court tried to summon as a witness, to open court, as she refused to travel to Germany to testify. As the Defense Team of Asia R.A. appealed to an open court reading of the UNITAD protocol in accordance with Sect. 251 GCCP, the Presiding Judge handed out the protocol via a self-reading procedure [Sect. 249 GCCP]. Finally, the Court announced that the next trial day will be used to hear various statements by the Defense in accordance with Sect. 257 GCCP. Also, the court interpreter or, in this function, language expert for Kurmanji C3 will be heard.
The proceedings were adjourned at 1:30 PM.
The next trial day will be on December 1, 2025, at 10:00 AM.
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